I am going on a semi fast - comment 76046
let’s put it this way … #SemiFasting will improve my systemic health. A good thing to do in any case.
But the primary reason i do this, is so i will not experience the energy downer after i eat.
It also reflects a change i want to make in the total energy flow of my timing and intention.
That kind of change won’t happen by my just changing a belief …
rather it will happen as a consequence of these deeds in the world
or in this case deeds that are not done.
You believe that you must do deeds to get these changes … and so doing deeds will match with your beliefs and changes will happen.
A person can also change beliefs, those you have about deeds, or simply those about how eating affects the body, and get the exact same results you will get by doing deeds. Things as simple as hypnosis prove this is true. People have been hypnotized into loosing weight by eating the exact same diet as they were previously gaining wait on … without any other change in their life, exercise, or anything else.
Thoughts control your reality. Period. Your beliefs control what will happen when a particular thought is applied. Period. The only reason you will get results with deeds is because that is how your belief structure is set up … not because deeds are required for anything at all. They are only experience happening.
And as Bandler said, being overweight is most often something a person believes at a deep level is helping them in some way. Hypnosis can temporarily affect that, if done right, but not permanently. As always, it is the beliefs that actually must change to get lasting results. There are actually places you can go to get hypnotized to loose weight, stop smoking, and nearly anything else. And some do work … the ones that also apply methods to change a persons beliefs do work when a person is receptive to having new beliefs.
If you will notice though, very few people are comfortable being hypnotized for any reason, even loosing weight. Humans tend to avoid stuff like that … with good reason.
Cause to effect:
- First i see A happen before B.
- Then i see it happen in that sequence again and again.
- Then i believe it usually happens in that sequence.
- Then i do A, and expect to see B follow.
See if you can write that out using your sequence and it still make sense.
I can not.
I #dare you to.
When you access full awareness of the whole #CycleOfDoing … the actual positions of A and B take on new meaning in many situations.
The body is also a very intricate machine that can work in millions of different ways. It is not at all hard for a human body to produce enzymes and/or hormones which affect how a body processes and/or absorbs the products of food. Calories in = body weight is a very simplistic formula. If it were always true, everyone would be the same weight if they eat the same food as others.
It would be easy for a skilled hypnotist to work with a human and human body processes to change how a person absorbs and relates to calories. Any scientist or doctor would easily be on board with that. It is not about input and output … in the end, it is only about one thing, beliefs.
If so, you are right. I don’t often visit that viewpoint. Too many other lovely views to visit. I am a traveler, not a person to sit on one mountain and contemplate that view for a lifetime.
the feedback loops can turn the sequence around.
Here i will do your #dare for you …
Effect to cause:
- First i believe A happens before B.
- Then i do A, and then i do B.
- Then i see it happen in that sequence again and again.
- … which reinforces 1
Me(I) not interested . Am not a guru. Am not on a mountain top . I do know who I am, though & not through some #LOA filter
Thoughts create things. Beliefs determine what thing a thought will bring. Even if you believe otherwise, that belief will be your experience. The system is self correcting.
The more direct “Cause to Effect” is more usual.
I cannot believe that the feedback loop is all that is happening,
and that is what it would take for me to believe that i make up, that which informs from outside
unless i also believe that i am all that there is.
… and therefore, it is so number one. It is so.
If you want to experience something different being so, set up different beliefs for yourself. That is all.
This entire thread over here is simply about your mistake above.
… not true it all. That kind of change can happen by your just changing a belief … and you can even verify that if you are willing to actually change one or another of the supporting beliefs which caused you to say the above.
That kind of change won’t happen by my just changing a belief
I could easily conclude that i created all of that including the sense impressions coming into my eyes. But i conclude instead that i just knew what was happening in advance of it happening. I could then appreciate the new information i grasped by wandering onto the factory floor and seeing the gigantic machines working and meeting Dan. I guess on some level i knew that was there like that … but no, not really … this factory has grown in ways my beliefs did not determine.
your believing to the contrary being just beauty in your own mind, having nothing to do with me.
Maybe some day you will realize that yourself …
untill then we have this #spass between us .
Sorry, that last one is about 90% only in your mind … i will need to get back to it later … it is too complicated for a day with other work to be done … so give me a #sethhmmm on that.
However, your personal preference is to restrain yourself into a sphere of experience which you like to call “human experience”. It would not be possible to fully immerse yourself in that restrained experience if you believed in the very intrinsic components of reality which define the restraints. So you don’t.
Maybe try rewriting them using “I” as for the subjece or “me” as the object, if you really want to #inform me.
Nothing new above. Same old stuff. Look it up in what I said initially about the model.
Oherwise #shucks, sans (3), i could just go with (1) and be the whole thing myself.
- some things i believe because i want them to be that way.
- other things i believe because i recognize them as matching what i sense from outside.
- I believe in what is outside, and that i do not determine it.seth
Then too bad about your soverignty, then i could believe whatever the shit about you that i make up …
er, kind of like you do to me
… and you do. You have very little concept of my experience. The vast majority of what you think you know about me and how I experience life is all made up by you to fit within your beliefs, which are quite different than mine in a lot of ways.
then now i can believe whatever the shit about you that i make up
If you actually knew anything very useful about me that you haven’t made up … we would have nothing to tell each other in all these 100,000’s of words we have written here. It’s true.
I communicate how I do because it is a more representative way to communicate. Better matches the intrinsic nature of the components involved. I do not shoot the messenger.
(#shucks i can write you in #CyEnglish (#MakeShitUp repeat !))
#btw … i think i said this before … when it comes to human interaction …
there is a world of difference between making up negative shit about another, and making up positive stories ...
… I’m betting that you have plenty examples of both of those happening in your own life … i sure have in mine. But who knows, maybe you have a different explaination of those experiences.
The former must necessarily spiral into decay ,
the latter spirals into love .seth
All of the stories you are telling about me are about the version of me you create, the ones you smack yourself about, and the ones you replace them with. What you think is “sense coming from them” is really sensing continuity with your own representation of reality. Discovering the version of someone who better matches, not what you would like, but what you created that person to represent to you. The reason you put that person in your story.
… Strange … that appears to be your story …
I do not consider “other people to be ‘simply’ another aspect of my story”.seth
in fact you wrote it, “About: I am going on a semi fast - comment 76046 (comment 76101)”.
Perhaps that is about yourself ….
why do you put it on me?
for me this is a type #1 belief … i will it not to be so, so for me it is not so.
see “About: I am going on a semi fast - comment 76046 (comment 76092)” for reference to belief types.