Socretes Cafe Tuesday April 18 2017
Note the principles of this kind of discussion.
It actually works quite well …
#RWG is not even possible, when we are truly #listening to each other.
the questions were
we dealt with both.
my proposed question is, would you prefer #omniponence to being #human ?
you may be right#Karen
Do you prefer the awareness of a homeless person, or a king? Do you prefer the awareness of a common farmer or a guru? Exactly to what degree do you wish to create without knowing and know what you are creating?
It is not one or the other. It is always a scale, or as you would say “a slider”. Where do you want to set your awareness slider of your own omnipotence? What human experience do you want to have?
I, personally, prefer to become fully aware and knowledgeable of whatever I focus my attention on and to be fully involved in the experience of the worldly creation of that which I desire and then think. That, of course, is not 100% omnipotence. It is closer to 100% engagement in my reality experience … i.e. a 100% participant instead of an observer. I want to always be fully involved in doing it, fully aware of the complete #CycleOfDoing happening within and around me, instead of watching it on cable TV in the reality mirror like most do. I have no desire to experience omnipotence … though for anyone who does, that experience is available too. It is our common intrinsic nature.
You see, most people get caught up in the reality mirror part of the #CycleOfDoing. In the sensory part of the experience. Thinking that is the whole tamale of being human. It is not. The whole #CycleOfDoing is “being human”. Being aware of every part of the cycle happening is not being aware of our omnipotence … it is only being aware of our whole and complete nature as creators of our reality. Omnipotence would be being aware of our intrinsic ability to create ALL VERSES, all reality. Could do that, don’t want to … it’s boring and why I created reality to start of with … to have individual experiences! What individual experience do you wish to have? Are you a spectator of the spectacle, or a fully involved creator?
I like your question …
… even with it’s embedded paradox .
Exactly to what degree do you wish to create without knowing and know what you are creating?nathan
i can be aware of what i am creating
and not know that in advance …
but as #bob pointed out in #theCafe,
i can not be aware of the consequences.
i can not honestly take responsibility
either for the consequences to myself,
or the consequences to others.
In #theCafe me, #karen and #steve opted to be human …
though #steve had a twist which i won’t repeat here
#bob wanted to experience #omniponence at least for a while.
Bob and Steve can easily have those experiences. All they have to do is expand their own awareness out of the mirror, out of sensory only. All it takes to do that is authentically meditate 15 minutes each day. That is enough to begin shifting awareness and to become aware of the rest of the #CycleOfDoing outside of the senses. Abraham says exactly this, but I know it is true myself, for I do it.
Omnipotence would be being aware of our intrinsic ability to create ALL VERSES, all reality. Could do that, don’t want to … it’s boring and why I created reality to start of with … to have individual experiences!
… hence even in groups, people tend toward the feelings first. It’s more direct.
Everything anyone does they do because they believe it will make them feel better.Abraham
You can not create ALL VERSES, all reality …
unless you ARE all verses and all reality …
unless you can take responsiblity for all consequences …
to yourself and to what is not you.
Whether it boars me or not, and it would boar the shit out of me.
And yes i know it is popular to discard logic … to go beyond it as it were … i like doing that too …
but not to the point of confusion where identity dissolves into stupidity and vagaree,
where thoughts are so free as to be just whatever floats in and titilates,
and have no pricatical relationship to action or consequence.
was in repsonse to marks empathy for Q’s boredom … which i would share
… the same thing really … just said from a different point of view perhaps.
the choice, “to have individual experiences”, IS pretty much
the choice, to be human.seth