Socretes Cafe Tuesday April 18 2017





Note the principles of this kind of discussion.












It actually works quite well …

#RWG is not even possible, when we are truly #listening to each other.
 

the questions were





we dealt with both.




 
my proposed question is,  would you prefer #omniponence to being #human ?
#SocratesCafe #LuthersTable

Comments


you may be right

#Karen

Being human IS omnipotence. The real question is “to what degree do you prefer to be aware of your omnipotence?”

Do you prefer the awareness of a homeless person, or a king? Do you prefer the awareness of a common farmer or a guru? Exactly to what degree do you wish to create without knowing and know what you are creating?

It is not one or the other. It is always a scale, or as you would say “a slider”. Where do you want to set your awareness slider of your own omnipotence? What human experience do you want to have?

I, personally, prefer to become fully aware and knowledgeable of whatever I focus my attention on and to be fully involved in the experience of the worldly creation of that which I desire and then think. That, of course, is not 100% omnipotence. It is closer to 100% engagement in my reality experience … i.e. a 100% participant instead of an observer. I want to always be fully involved in doing it, fully aware of the complete #CycleOfDoing happening within and around me, instead of watching it on cable TV in the reality mirror like most do. I have no desire to experience omnipotence … though for anyone who does, that experience is available too. It is our common intrinsic nature.  

You see, most people get caught up in the reality mirror part of the #CycleOfDoing. In the sensory part of the experience. Thinking that is the whole tamale of being human. It is not. The whole #CycleOfDoing is “being human”. Being aware of every part of the cycle happening is not being aware of our omnipotence … it is only being aware of our whole and complete nature as creators of our reality. Omnipotence would be being aware of our intrinsic ability to create ALL VERSES, all reality. Could do that, don’t want to … it’s boring and why I created reality to start of with … to have individual experiences! What individual experience do you wish to have? Are you a spectator of the spectacle, or a fully involved creator?

#ThisIsGood 


Well good or God,  it is a different expression of what you have been saying null.  

I like your question  …

Exactly to what degree do you wish to create without knowing and know what you are creating?

nathan
null … even with it’s embedded paradox null.

Yet ...
i can be aware of what i am creating
and not know that in advance …
but as #bob pointed out in #theCafe,
i can not be aware of the consequences. 
i can not honestly take responsibility
either for the consequences to myself,
or the consequences to others.

In #theCafe me, #karen and #steve opted to be human …
though #steve had a twist which i won’t repeat here
#bob wanted to experience #omniponence at least for a while.
 

Ha ..ha … #BellyLaugh - Q seemed lonely to me.null c.f. (*)

You can take 100% responsibility for everything you experience, all the good, all the bad, all the ugly. It is easy to do. Most are quite afraid to do it. It is much easier to blame than believe you are responsible for everything you have ever felt and will feel.

Bob and Steve can easily have those experiences. All they have to do is expand their own awareness out of the mirror, out of sensory only. All it takes to do that is authentically meditate 15 minutes each day. That is enough to begin shifting awareness and to become aware of the rest of the #CycleOfDoing outside of the senses. Abraham says exactly this, but I know it is true myself, for I do it.

a good thing to say and mean … #thanks → #karen 


Yep. I basically said exactly that above. Guess you didn’t catch it.

Omnipotence would be being aware of our intrinsic ability to create ALL VERSES, all reality. Could do that, don’t want to … it’s boring and why I created reality to start of with … to have individual experiences!


#SoTheFuckWhat? dA..h...

Why do people choose emotional over intellectual?

Everything anyone does they do because they believe it will make them feel better.

Abraham
… hence even in groups, people tend toward the feelings first. It’s more direct.

you still do have that pesky logical bind, however ....  
You can not create ALL VERSES, all reality …
unless you ARE all verses and all reality …
unless you can take responsiblity for all consequences …
to yourself and to what is not you.

Whether it boars me or not, and it would boar the shit out of me. 

And yes i know it is popular to discard logic … to go beyond it as it were … i like doing that too …
but not to the point of confusion where identity dissolves into stupidity and vagaree,
where thoughts are so free as to be just whatever floats in and titilates,
and have no pricatical relationship to  action or consequence.

I am assuming that is an insider answer to something Mark knows because I can’t make heads or tails out of it to anything I said.  

it was in response to “Socretes Cafe Tuesday April 18 2017 (comment 75976)” which i take

was in repsonse to marks empathy for Q’s boredom … which i would share null

I got that, I meant the “discard logic” stuff. Doesn’t ring any bells for me.

it was a preemptive strike null

i think ...

the choice, “to have individual experiences”, IS pretty much
the choice, to be human.

seth
… the same thing really … just said from a different point of view perhaps.
 

I suspect that Q did not appreciate the element of surprise as much as some humans do; playing practical jokes upon oneself being empty in an Allness context.null