Lucifer Takes over
Well if you haven’t noticed the analogy, a well established burn spreads and keeps spreading as more and more fuel becomes available to support it.
… and in fact, that is what is happening. Burning Man was the first. There are now more than 35 regional burns being held yearly across just this country and the number is growing and the attendance of each is growing every year and the successful spilling over of the burn ideology and experience into normal life is also growing … YES Island being but one that did spill over right now.
Total freedom for each of us, *IS* the #Lucifer #GOD finally #winning !
one story, that is told
Me, i tell a different story
When (if) you have a burn experience, you will deeply know the difference.
Virtually no one at a burn “does things to others” … and absolutely not without consent. The “fire” aspect of a burn does not represent traditional Hell and/or Lucifer. Tolerance is highly practiced, but not tolerance of being a victim as in the Lucifer model, only tolerance of self expression.
Here i am talking about a real #edge that exists today … not the myth we learned as children.
I am talking about the #edge that you say yourself that you are on one side of, and I on the other.
I am talking about your side of the edge where you can believe on faith something like this …
Means nothing ... except what meaning any particular person assigns to that label in that moment. All of your relationships require people to assign the same meanings to the same stimulus. We simply don’t have to assign any meaning other than the one that supports our experience to any stimulus. Thinking we have to assign the same meaning as the one providing the stimulus is the grand illusion people are hypnotized to follow. It is not required for elegant transactions with others … and in fact, detracts from the very elegance of the available transactions.
People who assign meanings to stimulus which support that person automatically provide feedback to others that supports others and the whole system self replicates elegantly. It only takes one to start doing it and stop being hypnotized into same thinking patterns.
absolute internal freedom can be called “Lucifer”
that is just a name for it.
It is not my way.
By devaluing the value in the Luceferic influence you are a self made cripple in terms of your authentic and complete reality experience. You still “assign your own meaning”, but you don’t do it authentically through your own being and source, you do it by virtue of outside and/or random influences … so effectively, you are owned by it instead of owning it. #hmmm …. right?
I do not devalue internal freedom … it is definitely great! … in ways that i could go on and on about almost indefinitely, just like you do.
Rather it is you who keep saying “go only with 100% internal freedom”, … that is almost exclusively what you keep saying.
Me, i am actually into the balance.
What I say, again and again, is “take 100% responsibility for every aspect of your experience, good, bad, or ugly”. (well, I added the good, bad, and ugly this time … but it is true )
but, hey, you can say anything your want about it, now can’t you … after all you are 100% responsible for making it what you want it to be internally. so of course you won’t be able to hear that which is outside which notices it being quite different.
maybe you can see how that works … oh #shucks, you wont be able to … your internal excitement is quite in a different place
i have no idea why you seem not to notice, or value, their vast expanse.
… and yes that expanse is verifiable by #doing and #sensing
It can be objectively proved in quite a number of ways that common experiences are simply something people assume because of how they think about reality and what they think it is (i.e. the belief that it is two people in one reality). We literally force, trick, and coerce our own minds into believing we are having common experiences … but when we put that to the test in nearly any way at all, we discover the illusion … it is right there for anyone brave enough to honestly look at it. But few will, because they will be afraid the truth will mean they are alone (the truth does not mean that, but getting beyond that fear is a really hard step to take).
i am obviously talking about actual matches that happen all the time. sure, the stories we tell ourselves and each other are as free as the very private thoughts that we have. they will seldom match up sans a good will to do so, and the detailed work necessary to convergence separate minds.
especially the deep ones … those take lots of good will and lots of detailed work.
but the surface ones are still vast. ask how all those people got to the same place of the #LoveBurn during the same time frame.
There would be no Internet … there would be no crops … no institutions … no civilization. There would be no music and drama without humans matching things up and building our culture upon that cooperation. We would at best be a scattered bunch of alley cats foraging and fighting over scraps of meat.
Humanity does not build upon just the pride of #Lucifer alone.
I also agree that humanity does not build on the pride of Lucifer alone. Humanity is the dance of all the forces and principles and the best humanity is the harmony of that dance … and inside that dance Pride is crucial, for without it, the authentic generation of new ideas is but a shadow of what it becomes when it is fueled by Luceferic pride in it’s rightful harmony. Behind every truly great stroke of the creative pen in human history is, among other things, the guiding hand of Lucifer. The human story would be a documentary, as boring as the story of the evolution of ants, without Lucifer’s involvement.
Obviously it was in response to your “passionat and incessant pounding on the outside of my box”. You could interpert it as a parent to child transaction in response to your parent child transactions to me. But then, of course, you would miss hearing the different beliefs that i hold that you do not. It was those beliefs, (believe them yourself or not), which i was intending to communicate to you.
re Lucifer Takes over (comment 72062) … well said indeed
Of course we disagree re the real matches … i still see them as vast … you see them as “very small droplets”. I have an explanation for that discrepancy. The pride of Lucifer in me is dim, so that those matches are easily noticed against that dim background … whereas in you that pride shines so bright that they are hardly noticeable at all.
If you think about it, together we are a good set of compliments to tackle the world
That you are unwilling to take responsibility for your own reality experience is about as much pride as one could imagine. The ultimate humbling experience IS realizing that one is responsible for EVERYTHING and then taking full responsibility for it. Nothing is more humbling. Until one does that, one is hiding behind the veil of otherness as a prideful child hides behind a lie.