The RSS Putsch

by seth on [group seth] at 2006-02-23 19:23:01, changed 2006-02-23 20:20:50 [permalink 2829]

6 comments

seth : 2006-02-24 08:38:39

M 2006-02-24 07:38:33 [item 2829]

How well is a random walk around the universe going as far as finding what you want & getting others to agree with you to use it? How do you know you have what you want when you got it ? (;-))

To answer your specific question: we all are in that perdicament and legislation just interfears with it. But you have an interesting interpertation of the cartoon. You have interperted it, as all people must do, according to your immediate context ... which in this case was your experience with me as a developer and you know i am a firm believer in the wisdom of vague specs. Perhaps i should have warned people to interpert the cartoon in the context of [tag rss-dogs].

seth : 2006-02-24 10:20:50

This is a cartoon mashup. Thanks to museum.utep.edu for the mad dog and thanks to new-neighbors.com for the little people and of course thanks, google images search.

Incidentally i left out a picture of the shifted librarian, the only one i could find was hopelessly blurred and i may have gotten the text wrong ... so if anyone wants a remake, just include them in the comments. I will be glad to oblige.

seth : 2006-02-24 19:58:36

Apparently it is even easier than i thought to misinterpert and become offended by a cartoon ..

source: Dave Winer

Steve, I did briefly have a post about Hate in the blogosphere, but on reflection, decided that it would just attract more of that kind of energy, and I?m pretty exhausted from being pushed around in a lot of different ways, and I didn?t feel I could deal with more.

Here?s the basics. A post on a syndication mail list, with fascist imagery, called a Putsch. The term is associated with the Nazis.

... my response:

source: Seth Russell

Well i don?t know enough German to know what ?Putsch? really means, all i know is about the beer hall Putsch as a kind of mob activity, a kind of political activity that changed a regime and that was the only reason i chose the title. Also, i?m serious about posting a cartoon from your point of view ? same style? same bubbles if you like ? your words ? your tone.

No apologies, Dave. This is just political awareness. If you read my context you would see that i was just documenting and illustrating the ?drama?. Illustrate your side ?. or let me, i?ll be glad to illustrate your side ? just feed me the text and the images. And if you read my tag room about you, you would know that i bear you no hate.

Sometimes i think you don?t know how loud you bark.

... after which he kicked me out of his blog

source: Dave Winer
The last thing I want is to perpetuate that kind of racial bullshit. My race was ethnically cleansed by the putschers. Even if I werent?t characterized as the animal in that cartoon I would find it intolerably offensive. I find it hard to believe you really are that ignorant, but no matter what, you?ve said your piece, now get out. You?re not welcome here.

...

seth : 2006-02-25 02:36:46

M 2006-02-24 20:23:00 [item 2829]

Winer must be a paranoid. Putsch (strangely enough got translated into French) is coup detat - revolution - well illustrated by the cartoon! I don't see no Nazi imagery in the cartoon - do you ? Perhaps his own biggotry is showing. Maybe rather than being associated with a Putsch he should be associated as a putz.

Well, "coup detat" would have been a better choice of words; but it is done now. I had no intention of pushing Winer's Nazi button, and had i known about it, certainly would have used a different association. It's strange how people interpert images ... you can say whatever you want ... couch it in nice e nice e diplomatic terms, but put in in an image and you get an visceral reaction.

I think Winer is acting like a bulley and using up political capital just as fast as he creates it; but then he creates it pretty fast. An even larger man would have reacted differently.

seth : 2006-02-25 02:54:10

source: Winer on Scripting News
It was a rougher week on the net than you could see on the mail lists. I'm getting pushed around again, that's the bad news. The good news is that a bunch of people wanted to get a flamefest going with me as the guest of honor, and it didn't take root. Even so, I have reached a new level of exhaustion, and that's not a good thing. In some conversations, I've tried, to no avail, to explain that I am a real person, not an object, and I'm just asking to be treated as you would treat anyone else. But I'm also an A-lister, and a celebrity, and being treated like an object comes with the territory. But I'm also a blogger, and I'm sorry, I just doing go for the regal treatment. Anyway, maybe next week will be better. I sure hope so.

Let's let Dave have the last word

M : 2006-02-28 07:53:25

seth 2006-02-28 07:29:05 [item 2829]

[url http://sandhill.typepad.com/sandhill_trek/2006/02/interop_fantasy.html]

source: ... (From the above link) ....Bloggers are largely representative of the consumer market in the vanity publishing industry. Most of us aren't worth a bucket of warm piss, content wise.

...later on he says the words "not to be negative ..."